Who decides when AI is too dangerous? | Decoder

Our guest today is Hayden Field, senior AI reporter for The Verge. Often when Hayden comes on the show, it’s because something has gone wrong in the world of AI. Last weekend, that something was a pretty intense mix of Anthropic, the Trump administration, and Anthropic’s new AI model, Fable 5.

Hayden actually just published a fantastic play-by-play on The Verge about how the Fable ban went down, and the scramble through the weekend from both sides to figure out what exactly happened and how it might get resolved. So we wanted her to come on and just walk us through the timeline and what it all means. #tech #ai #anthropic #claude

0:00 Intro
0:52 Welcome to Decoder
3:36 What is Claude Mythos & Fable 5?
6:41 The jailbreak & 90-minute ultimatum
14:42 Why did Andy Jassy kneecap his own investment?
16:04 Why only Anthropic?
25:37 Was wiping out the Biden framework a mistake?
27:27 What would real AI regulation look like?
32:18 Should AI be treated like military tech?
34:55 What's next?

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